Ruth Bader Ginsburg Just Gave AOC a Severe Reality Check

Ruth Bader Ginsburg Just Gave AOC a Severe Reality Check

In years past plenty of opposition has been given to the Electoral College, mainly by liberal presidential candidates who have lost, such as former Senator Hillary Clinton. Ever since it was realized on November 8, 2016, that she would not be the next president of the United States, progressive lawmakers siding for her have fought to get rid of it.

They realized that even though Clinton might have had the popular vote, she could still lose to Donald Trump. And lose she did. To them, this was unfair and should be counted as such.

After all, they had worked hard for it. Apparently, then-DNC chairwoman Donna Brazile was afraid that while Hillary might win the electoral vote, she would lose the popular vote. So they spent millions in campaign resources working on getting the popular vote in states where it was already determined.

They must have forgotten that the popular vote is not really the one that matters.

In light a new presidential election coming up, the idea of getting rid of the Electoral College in favor a popular vote is getting more and more attention, especially from progressive lawmakers like Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

She posted an Instagram story last month in which she stated that the Electoral College “is, in fact, a scam” and that it “has a racial injustice breakdown.” According to her, it is unfair that big cities that house much of minority populations count just as much as states that have a counted population of much less.

She even insinuated that those fewer populated states were worthless in comparison and that they didn’t need those votes.

However, it appears that a few people on the liberal side of the law still have a good head on their shoulders, as long-time progressive Ruth Bader Ginsburg proved on Monday.

When the Supreme Court Justice spoke to the University of Chicago, she pointedly said that AOC and other’s efforts to ax the Electoral College were “more theoretical than real.”

She said, “It’s largely a dream because our Constitution is… hard to amend.” And continued with, “I know that from experience.”

Ginsburg basically told the audience that it wasn’t going to happen. And when we look at what needs to happen for it take any sort of serious root, we have to agree.

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact currently has the best chance of getting any traction toward the goal. But it’s still a long way off. The NPVIC is a legislative agreement that if signed into law would allow states to give their electoral votes to whoever won the popular vote in that state, no matter what the Electoral College results were.

However, for it be passed, it would need to accumulate the support of however many states to equal the 270 electoral votes needed to be elected as president. Currently only 15 states plus the District of Columbia have agreed to the legislation, giving it a total of 196 electoral votes.

To gain the remaining needed votes, several states that AOC and others have deemed as worthless because of their low populations would have to sign on, and the chances of that are, at this point, highly unlikely. After all, the College is what gives them any sort of worth when it comes to voting at the moment. To get rid of it would be signing their own death wish.

In addition, even once the NPVIC had enough support from states, it would need 38 of the 50 states to ratify it as an amendment to the Constitution.

Oh and don’t forget about the two-thirds vote it would need in both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

So yes, at this point, we can say this is definitely more of a dream than any sort of reality to be seen in the near future.

But that doesn’t mean liberals like AOC will stop trying. As MSNBC’s Chris Hayes said, “the weirdest thing about the Electoral College is the fact that if it wasn’t specifically in the Constitution for the presidency, it would unconstitutional.”

Thankfully, it is in the Constitution. And according to what it will take to change that, it always will be.

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41 thoughts on “Ruth Bader Ginsburg Just Gave AOC a Severe Reality Check

  1. AOC . . . The electoral college was SET UP to prevent the states from losing their sovereignty to the HUGE states (like New York). This is A GREAT way to help prevent SOCIALISM, a miserably FAILED experiment from taking over the other states that don’t WANT it. And, the VAST majority of the U.S. Doesn’t WANT your Socialism. It FAILS every time. Tell THAT to the REST of your DEMOCRATIC colleagues . . . Team Trump and his allies 2020.

  2. Hey Dopey Dems,Be careful what you wish for because if the law changes the shoe may be on the other foot !!!!! Then we could elect a very religious figure like President Kennedy with the popular vote.Then you Gays would be in Big trouble !!!!!

  3. Changing the rules on the middle of the game is no acceptable. Changing how we vote for politicians is the same. The article is very specific on how and what it takes. In this case must be followed the Progressives do not have the numbers in any venue, congress 2/3 to affirm the change, when was the last time did they ever agree by a 2/3 majority on such an important issue as this. I don’t but it has to be a long time. 3/4 of the states to affirm it not going to happen just look how many states Trump got. Take those two criteria the odds on that happening are like maybe winning Powerball back to back, not going to happen.

  4. I know Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a liberal but it makes me glad that she’s upholds the Constitution on the Electoral College. Yes it does take a lot to change the Constitition something the forefathers of such foresaw. Men with great wisdom. AOC needs some of that wisdom if not from the forefathers then maybe from Justice Ginsburg. AOC your play card has been Trumped. Pun intented!

  5. “Chris Hayes said, ‘the weirdest thing about the Electoral College is the fact that if it wasn’t specifically in the Constitution for the presidency, it would unconstitutional.’ ”

    I sincerely doubt Chris Hayes even knows what the Constitution say, Let alone having the intelligence to substantiate his statement. The electoral college is a lot more than just a means of providing the several States equality before the federal government. It remains relatively uncorrupted even after these 232 years because;

    1 – the electors that make up the “majority” body that elects the President is temporary and never the same body two elections or more.

    2 – They are almost all selected by the various state party conventions a few months before the Election.

    3 – They meet, each group, within their own states; never in one place

    4 Even tho states have a fair degree of enforcement authority to make electors vote according to the popular vote electors constitutionally have the elective to vote conscious – or out of good faith.

    5 After the vote they disband

    In other words they are nearly completely insulated from conspiracy and corruption. And – listen very carefully – THAT is the reason the left and the Democrats hate it. They cannot bribe, spindle or mutilate the Electoral College – like they’ve done to the other 3 Majorities of our Republic (House – democracy (represents the People). Senate – federalism (represented the several States. Supreme Court – The Law (once represented our Sovereignty in the form of the Constitution but today has become the “People’s Court” to decide social issues instead of the Supreme law of the Land).

    Betcha Dip-$hit Chris Hayes didn’t know all that!

  6. Having the Electoral College is the only thing, to keep a few large cities controlled by Democrats from dominating the country. The elimination of the college, would allow for the tyranny of the majority in everything. It would be mob rule for every situation. There would no longer be minority rights. Who cares what minorities think It’s the majority that controls everything. Here is a woman that is always talking about minority rights for everyone, while she fights against them. It shows how stupid she is or how ignorant she is about our system of government. Maybe it’s both of them.

  7. The author of this article really screwed the pooch. They got a very important fact wrong.

    “The NPVIC is a legislative agreement that if signed into law would allow states to give their electoral votes to whoever won the popular vote in that state, no matter what the Electoral College results were.”

    States already give their electoral votes to whoever won the popular vote in the state. What this new compact does is that the states have to give their electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote of the whole country. Even if their state didn’t vote for that candidate.

    So if this compact had been in effect in 2016, Hillary Clinton would have gotten Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania’s Electoral votes. I don’t know how this can withstand a court challenge. Because every voter who voted a certain way in their state could be disenfranchised. It’s basically saying that the voters in that state didn’t vote and that they’re going to have to go along with what other voters in other states did.

  8. That is a completely nonsensical statement, as ANYTHING that is not in the constitution would be unconstitutional. DUH. It actually IS completely constitutional, however, in that it is the STATES that give authority to govern to the REPUBLIC, not the other way around. Each state, as a signatory to that Union, should have a fair and separate weight in determining the leader of that which they have created. Our form of government is NOT A DEMOCRACY, IT IS A REPUBLIC, and liberals not only hate that, they refuse to acknowledge that fact, especially as it regards the representational entity called the Electoral College. Remember, the filibuster would be unconstitutional too, as it serves the same purpose in congress; namely, to avoid mob rule by providing a brake on single-party tyranny, and making sure that not just a bare one-vote majority decides the fate of the nation. but that a preponderance of the population agrees that a law, a policy, or a nominee is the best option.

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